Heavily processed photograph of the sign for Albion Street in San Francisco

An Interview with Harold Norse, Part 4: This is going to be Psycho Drama

In this short clip Norse and I are completely relaxed and
in animated conversation.

Norse answers the question I posed at the close of part 3 by
reminding me of a discussion we had before I moved in.

“I said Rob, this is going to be Psycho Drama; not literature class’

My voice in section 4 of the Interview is younger and I detect
a Southern accent.

It’s Bobby’s voice.

It’s odd to hear an alternate’s voice.

It’s also odd  to read an account of an evening I spent
in 1987 with writer, Darell Yates-Rist .

Rist was traveling the United States to write Heartlands,
his book about being gay in America.

I agreed to give him a night tour of San Francisco.

Rist published Heartlands in 1992.

He describes the Cottage I shared with Norse on Albion Street.

Rist died from HIV in 1993.

Part four of the interview with Norse picks up where part three ended.

It’s brief and ends when Norse leaves to feed a parking meter.

An Interview with Harold Norse, Part 4.

An Interview with Harold Norse, Part 1.

An Interview with Harold Norse, Part 2.

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7 thoughts on “An Interview with Harold Norse, Part 4: This is going to be Psycho Drama

  1. Sorry to hear about the passing of Rist.. How insightful that he wrote you live with whispers.. As to the audio with Norse, he speaks wisely about free will.. and the part about 2 years or 5 years made me smile 😉 “This is going to be psycho drama” ~ awesome quote!

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    1. I have to titrate the editing because listening to the interview is emotionally

      I did feel a sense of pride when I heard Norse say I ‘did it’ in two years
      and that I always surprised him.

      That collaborates my theory that Norse was working with Bobby.

      Bobby has no memories of school but he must have had some access
      a larger pool of knowledge acquired by the ‘adult’ alternates.

      Rist was the last of my literary friends to die.

      Rist was a good man but he had a tendency to go purple in his prose. 🙂

      I’ve never understood what he meant when he said I lived with whispers but you’re right,
      I guess I did.

      One impact of the AIDS epidemic on my life as a survivor was that none of
      the writers I admired and worked with in the 1970s and 80’s survived.

      It’s hard to be a good writer without the support and vision of other good writers.


      1. Oh yes it’s with those around us motivating us that we challenge ourselves more. What do you mean by “purple prose”? Thanks for your genuine shares in comments and posts. I really appreciate them.

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      2. I mean that his choice of descriptive language is often too rich. For instance, describing our tour of San Francisco as a tour of ‘his disenfranchised experience’ implies that I felt personally disenfranchised which is inaccurate. I was giving Rist a tour of a side of San Francisco that I found personally disgraceful. The city was crawling with gay kids who moved here for freedom but were instead sexually exploited and left to fend for themselves, often homeless and sick, scrounging up a few bucks to sleep in all night cinemas. This was not my disenfranchised experience–but it was an experience I felt compelled to document and discuss. Rist and I often discussed our weaknesses as writers and I think that if he had not gotten so sick in the last year of writing ‘Heartlands’ it would have been a better book. I love this kind of exchange-

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